Question for V-Drummer

[davfrancis]

Hi Brad,

I always enjoy your posts on here and your contributions to Drum!

In another thread you mention practising your "Cheese Chu-cuttas" (I think!) and other hybrids. I have always been interested in these newer rudimental ideas and wondered if you might take the time to explain the "cheeses" "egg-beaters" etc. to a relative novice.

Alternatively if you know of an online source that is good for this stuff... thanks.

[Vdrummer]

You can cheese any rudiment that has a flam in it. Basically, cheesing a rudiment is to bounce the main note of a flam, the one that follows the grace note. Take a common rudiment, like an inverted flam tap. lR l rL R. Bouncing the main note of each flam gives you this lRRL rLLR - these are what is known as alternating Cheese's. Take another rudiment, the flam accent for example: lR L R rL R L. Cheesing that gets you lRRL R rLLR L. A chu-chutta is lR L lR rL R rL so a cheese chu-chutta is lRRL lR rLLR rL. There's a good book called Slammin' Hybrids by Greg Anderson that goes through these sort of patterns in a systematic way.
It can be found at: http://slamminbeats.moonfruit.com/

There's also a ton of DCI style corps sheet music at:

http://www.jaredoleary.com/Drumline_Sheet_Music.html including some sheets of hybrids that were originally published in Percussive Notes.

Have fun!

Brad

[Vdrummer]

Hey David,

I forgot to describe Egg Beaters. They're a five note sticking usually played RRRLL, though you can reverse them to LLLRR, often played as quintuplets, and were named because they tend to emulate the sound of an egg beater.

Thanks for you kind comments, too. Play through the head!

Brad

[davfrancis]

Thanks for the swift and informative responses.

I like the idea of 'cheesing' the flam rudiments. I tend to play through Alan Dawson's Rudimental Ritual often and may have to add the cheese variations on the end!

I will be sure to check out the links too. Many thanks.

[Vdrummer]

You're welcome!

[davfrancis]

Just one more thing...

If a chu-chutta is lR l lR rL r rL

Wouldn't the 'cheesed' version be:

lRr l lRr rLl r rLl?

Or do you just alter the first flam each time? (as I think you described in your response)

Similarly with a rudiment like the flamacue would you 'cheese' the flam at the end or just the one at the start?

...Just wondered - I like the sound of cheesing all the flams in each of these cases but didn't know just how 'cheesy' they are meant to sound.

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[moosetication]

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[Vdrummer]

In those two cases, you'd just cheese the first flam. As you've discovered, it's not a science, it's just a rough way to categorize and name patterns.

[Vdrummer]

I have fun with this stuff and mainly use it to keep my hands strong and limber. I play a lot of pipe band side drum (snare) music too, since I find that more inherently musical and more applicable to the kit. It tends to be somewhat polyrhythmic too.

Brad

[davfrancis]

Cool.

Its nice to try the different ways of doing each rudiment anyhow.

Thanks a lot for the info.